Saitek Cyborg Evo Force PC Flight Stick ( PS27 )

List Price: $69.95 Discount Price: $51.99

Features:

• Rapid-fire trigger, 5 fire buttons, 8-way point of view hat switch
• Single spring action for use with non-Force Feedback games
• 3 position handle adjustment to suit all hand sizes
• Lever throttle, 2 shift buttons, 4 base buttons
• 3D twist for rudder control

Customer Reviews:

Have never received the product [Posted on 2007-06-01]
I ordered this device. Paid for it. Established that it was never shipped due to low stock. And have never heard anything since!

Responsive? [Posted on 2007-07-07]
I'm really surprised at the high ratings this joystick has received. I had high expectations after reading all of it and went out to get one.

Out of the box it looked great; Loads of buttons and even a little blue LED... if that sort of thing turns you on.

Then I calibrated it and tried all its buttons. It had several forcefeedback simulations - a helicopter, machine-gun, even what seems to be a toilet flushing. Still great.

Then I installed a couple of flight simulations games and was totally dismayed at it's response, or lack of. It works great it you intend to sweep left and right accross the screen, but if you need accuracy, pinpoint targetting... forget it. There is no response for movements of an inch or so.

I had better response from my genius joystick that cost barely 1/3 the price.

Saitek Cyborg Evo Force [Posted on 2007-09-28]
Excellent made stick.. Very stable, heavy weight, hard to tip over... Force feedback is excellent, it was the selling point for me and im not dissapointed. The adjustability of hand rest and top buttons made it feel like it was made for my hand.. so comfortable i felt like ive been jerking this stick around for years the very first time i gave it a good yank session. The only down side that i have found is that i occasionally lose calibration during a game after a couple of quick back and forth type motions, very rare though. Overall i Love It.

Very poor at fine control.......... [Posted on 2007-11-12]
Yes, It's adjustable
Yes it has pretty blue lights.
But that's it on the "pro" list.
This stick has one very very major drawback if you are using it as a "Flight-stick":

The deadband around the neutral point is HUGE.

So, starting with no pressure on the stick - you make a fine correction by pushing / pulling and......nothing happens.
So you push / pull a little more and......nothing happens.
By now you've moved the stick-top a full 1cm, and THEN you get a reaction, or rather an over-reaction. By now it's too late.........

I've tackled Saitek at length about this issue, but they insist that it's normal. There are other issues like the wandering rudder, which can be cured in the short-term by editing the registry, but this excessive deadband has no fix.

If you fly flight/combat simulators I suggest you avoid this stick at all costs.

force feedback is good, joystick seems off. [Posted on 2008-09-22]
I play one game with this joystick, Aces High 2. As a flight simulator its one of the best. I had previously used two older cyborg sticks, which I loved. (both of them). This one not so much. I think I was expecting too much out of the force feedback, but when it is engaged the planes are impossible to fly well, and I had to give up on shooting with the gun feedback on.

I have to calibrate the stick every time I play the game. Ive never had that problem on my other cyborg sticks. I have turned force feedback off totally as well. since I had to do that I might as well have bought the avi8tor stick for 40 dollars less.

Overall its a solid stick. works well when setup finally, but I guess force feedback is not for me. I cant see how it would work in ANY flight game and still leave you a viable pilot. The adjustability is nice though. and I prefer the throttle on the front of the stick like my previous cyborgs, but it works. Also it has to be plugged in to a wall socket as well as the usb port. That just stinks since I dont use the ffback that it needs to be plugged in for. would be nice if you didnt use ffback if you didnt have to plug it in.

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